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Author Topic: Movie Transparent Background  (Read 10673 times)

helenmel

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Movie Transparent Background
« on: April 03, 2008, 11:07:55 pm »

I have a simple animated object that I'm rendering as an .avi movie. But I want the background to be transparent so that I can place the animated object onto an existing moving background in Adobe Premiere.
Any way to do that?
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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 12:53:25 am »

I'm not sure if it's possible to render an alpha map animation, but if that is possible, that's what you'll want to do.  If not, I'd advise setting the background color to something not in the image at all (neon green, bright pink) and "green screen" it out in Adobe Premiere.
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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 04:41:38 am »

rendering alpha channel videos is possible, i've done it several times for projects where i wanted to add anim8or/terranim8or vfx plates into a stopmotion video.  just go Render>Render Movie, and then pick the 'Alpha Channel' option instead of 'Image' in the lower half (i think it's the lower half...) of the video render settings dialogue  :)

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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 05:38:58 am »

You could use something called chroma keying, or green screen as the also call it. Use a green or blue color as your background, take a color as far away from the colors of you object (mostly bright green). Render you movie, now you got your object with a green background. Import the movie file in a movie editing program which has chroma keying: I know Wax 2.0 has it, which is free to download.
Chroma keying works by choosing a color you use in you movie a replace all pixels of that color with another movie or picture. By selecting the green in you movie you can replace it with a movie of choice. Now you will see that you object is on the foreground and on the background is your movie of choice.

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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 06:34:40 am »

yes, greenscreen works, and it saves a bit of hard disk space by only using one video, but you can sometimes get problems with it, e.g. if you do an antialiased render, then your characters (or whatever) can often come out with a slight green halo around them after compositing, depending on how good - or not - the greenscreen function is in your editor.  this happens because the antialiased pixels around the edges will be part model-coloured, and part green-background-coloured - green enough for the eye to notice "hey, there's green there!", but not green enough for the computer to say "oh, look, let's get rid of those pixels, they look green".

on the other hand, the alpha channel method has the disadvantage of taking up more HDD space - you need both the colour video, and another video file for the transparency data - but it has the advantage of producing much cleaner composites, especially right around the edges of your objects, and even more so if you render your objects with a background colour as close as possible to the general colour of your intended background image (if it has a "general colour", that is; if the background is all sorts of colours, then it's probably best to render your colour channel with a medium grey background).

the alpha-channel method also allows you to make your object as colourful as you want - there's an anecdote from ILM about the X-wing fighters in Star Wars: they were supposed to have blue markings, but this had to be changed to red (and the team name changed from "Blue Group" to "Red Group"), because if they'd tried to bluescreen a model with blue markings, then the blue bits of the fighters would have become seethrough - and looked really, really stupid!  but today, with CGI models and the alpha-channel compositing method, you can make your object any colour(s) you want.

anyways... hope that helps!

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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 06:43:07 am »

yes, greenscreen works, and it saves a bit of hard disk space by only using one video, but you can sometimes get problems with it, e.g. if you do an antialiased render, then your characters (or whatever) can often come out with a slight green halo around them after compositing, depending on how good - or not - the greenscreen function is in your editor.  this happens because the antialiased pixels around the edges will be part model-coloured, and part green-background-coloured - green enough for the eye to notice "hey, there's green there!", but not green enough for the computer to say "oh, look, let's get rid of those pixels, they look green".
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The good thing about wax 2.0 is that it has a tolerance meter for chroma keying. With that the computer searchs for pixel wich are similar to the chroma key color. So you don't have that nasty green edge along. But it has some other problems, the only ones which don;t got the problems are the ones of hollywood XD

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Re: Movie Transparent Background
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 10:52:55 pm »

Thanks guys. I was able to use the Chroma Key Effect in Adobe Premiere to get rid of the Anim8or background.
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