tanzim, i forgot to mention that i got a new geforce 4, so that's the reason i can skin in other views now, in the other card i could only skin in side view, now i can skin in all views, spicy, i did not model it, i skinned the model, i'm guessing i either did not type it, or you did not read it, but i converted the model strait from half life 2, i did not model it. tanzim, i did not only skin his arms, in one of the poses i arched his back, and in the "hands up!" jpeg, i rotated his head to look at the camera, finally, the legs were not part of any of the poses, i have to reskin the legs as the bones for the left leg are actually grabbing vertices from the right leg too...