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General Category => General Anim8or Forum => Topic started by: siragin on January 03, 2011, 04:14:18 pm

Title: any one remember this topic?
Post by: siragin on January 03, 2011, 04:14:18 pm: I remember sometimes last year ppl were complaning about this site called illusion mage because it rebranded Anim8or and Blender to its own software and was selling it. Well They just put our this marketing video that I have been seeing all over the internet. It looks like he took anim8or out of the produce because I don't see any screen shoots of anim8or on there any more but blender art work is all in there. Here is a link for you to see.

http://www.illusionmage.com/
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: siragin on January 03, 2011, 04:18:09 pm: oh and i forgot that illusion mage is now on facebook and twitter.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Illusion-Mage/124454827619424?v=info

http://twitter.com/illusionmage
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on January 03, 2011, 04:40:12 pm: That is sick.. :(
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: Maximilianibus on January 04, 2011, 07:22:08 am: wtf is that?? pixar is using maya btw... and i dont know any movie company or what ever that uses THAT... and anim8or is easier! ;P
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: Janro on January 04, 2011, 09:45:23 am: I know what you're referring to. It's 3DMagix: http://www.3dmagixpro.com/

This page has the exact same layout, message, and 95% of the images(I take it they found new ones to copy pasta <_< )

Must be the same dudes. Someone ought to catch them or something. :\

I can't believe they're trying again!
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on January 04, 2011, 09:53:58 am: Yeah isn't there somewhere this can be reported?
We must contact the cyberpolice.
(The consequences will never be the same)

But seriously, it's rediculous, there's not really any way to warn people about this guy, all the reviews and FAQs on the sites are made up >:(
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: siragin on January 04, 2011, 11:14:10 am: well i don't know about anim8or but blender is open source and they say you are free to change the code and sell it it if you want.

from the blender site:

"Can I distribute the official blender.org releases under my own branding and name?

Yes, you are free to name Blender whatever you like, and repackage and distribute it under your own branding, provided you still deliver or publish it under the GPL conditions to your clients.

You can NOT change Blender's copyright notices, nor make claims you wrote or created that program.

Without explicit permission, you then can also NOT change existing claims or credits that have been published for Blender, such as feature or specification listings on blender.org, galleries or movies, release notes, screenshots, press articles, reviews, and so on.

If you wish to rename and/or rebrand Blender, you will have to create and use your own credits and achievements as well.

"Can I sell my own version of Blender?

Yes you can, but only if you provide this new version of Blender and the sources to your clients under the same GPL license. The client then benefits from all rights the GPL offers; free to use it, or even distribute it when they wish.

This method provides an essential business model for contracting and support business with Blender. You can freely sell fixed or changed code in Blender, for as long you deliver this as GPL to clients. You don't have the obligation to publish it for everyone."
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: Maximilianibus on January 04, 2011, 01:39:33 pm: imagine you buy a "super-whatever-super-cool-super-amazing" 3d program and then notice its blender! :D
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: Kyle on January 04, 2011, 07:32:39 pm: What I find insulting is how easy they make it out to be. Their slogan might as well be "so easy, a cave man could do it".
And they say all this while showcasing models that took many hours or hard work.
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: ENSONIQ5 on January 04, 2011, 08:55:00 pm: I guess, as they say, 'a fool and his money is easily parted'. It appears these blokes are not actually doing anything wrong, since it does not appear to be in contravention of the Blender T&C's. Not terribly ethical, however!
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on January 05, 2011, 01:34:51 am: Yeah, that's a shame. I really wish there were some legal thing to put them out of business. I mean, come on, legal or not, who does something like that??

EDIT: But doesn't Blender's license claim it's NOT legal to say YOU made it? If so, then that's one illegal thing they're doing. He says "my program" a lot.
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: siragin on January 05, 2011, 10:31:04 am: yea blender says that you have to make the program open source. They also say you have to use your own credits and achievement. meaning the images that he is using for his version of the software has to be his own images made from it.
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on January 05, 2011, 03:27:43 pm: Then it is illegal.
I Googled Illusionmage scam and 3DMagix[Pro]scam and only got a few relevant "scam" results. Most of them are reviews obviously written by him or a partner.

I did find one interesting thing, though: http://www.katsbits.com/smforum/index.php?topic=215.0

Pretty interesting. They keep using different names for each new site/package.
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: Kamagoi on January 10, 2011, 10:54:24 pm: Yeah I saw the video on youtube and flagged it immediately. I sure hope no one has actually bought it.
Title: Re: any one remember this topic?
Post by: daniel99 on February 04, 2011, 08:42:52 pm: I haven't seen any references to anim8or there. Only to blender.