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Title: [ COMPLETE ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 02, 2010, 03:33:29 pm
(http://www.prinsenhofbest.nl/img/content/sfeer/diner2_groot.jpg)


Challenge #21: Dinner is served

The next challege: Dinner is served. Make a scene in which a dinnertable is shown. Plates, knives, candlelight: make it as wild as you want.
Voted will be on the best still image.

Deadline: Two Weeks (september the 16th)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: kreator on September 02, 2010, 03:39:56 pm
ha, now looking at this you can use ANY renderer as you hav`nt said to the contarary...  reminds me of our "Time for Lunch" challenge last year on animanon.com 
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 02, 2010, 03:55:07 pm
Ofcourse you will have to make a new render for this challenge ;)
but yes...let's go wild...you can use different renderers for this challenge. But the rest should be done in anim8or and ofcourse I can recommend the ART renderer to everyone ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 02, 2010, 07:23:54 pm
Hmm.. This will be pretty fun and enjoyable for me. I'll see what I can do. :)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: blazecon0 on September 02, 2010, 09:07:45 pm
yay :D this will be the first challenge i participate in ^_^
ive already got a good idea for this 1
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 02, 2010, 09:33:49 pm
oooh yeah... Gotta do 'er, gotta do 'er.... anim8or all the way... yupyupyup    Well, except for texture creation....
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Raxx on September 03, 2010, 12:48:01 am
Hm, my ideas usually take way too much work to complete them, but I've got time for the next 4 days so...we'll see what I can come up with ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Janro on September 03, 2010, 01:00:01 am
Hmm. This will be interesting. I'll give this one a shot. My workload this week is relatively light.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 05, 2010, 01:53:37 am
WEEEEEEEEE!!, I meant YUUUUUUUUMMMM! SORT OF!!! (if you look at my picture!)
YAY FIRST PICTURE!!!
I call it, heart for dinner,or at least thats what I saved the anim8or file as (:
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 05, 2010, 03:08:32 am
awwww Dude, you sorta outdid my idea... I was holding off... eh... you went for the gruesome though... Me, I am just going for "not quite the norm"
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 05, 2010, 10:54:14 pm
A little setting up the scene... borrowed my "main character" from the Antarctic Whaling Base just to use him as a scale figure.

We ARE supposed to try and share a bit of progress, right?
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 05, 2010, 10:55:39 pm
Arik... is that bump mapping I see???

Way to go! Bump mapping is awesome isnt it
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 06, 2010, 12:03:06 am
mump-ba-what? I dunno WHAT yer on about... :P

Yup, I mucked up a brickwork, then needed a bumpmap, so GIMP-i-fied it and got me bricks with bumpmap...
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: hihosilver on September 06, 2010, 12:53:38 am
Good stuff guys!
Kreator I'd love to see your render but I can't see it on Animanon, it wont let guests see your image!
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: kreator on September 06, 2010, 01:50:31 am
BLOG1

I thought I`d start this image as I have some time, and my next project is still taking shape


This is a simple scene modelled in anim8or and rendered with ART which took 20 minutes to render
(http://www.animanon.com/ROOM/GardenTable_Chairs.jpg)


However, I exported the scene in anim8or as a 3ds then imported to Carrara


(http://www.animanon.com/ROOM/Carrara_GardenParty.jpg)


This render incredibly took 9 seconds

Note: if you export as 3ds it will only save the static models, ie: lights, cameras, figures, sequences are NOT exported

So the carrara render is not an exact view as I had to insert a camera and lights to replicate the view Plus I did add some translucency to the umbrella which I will animate

BLOG2
Added some more tables and chairs, and just a quick anim for the brollies, Pity you can`t export the morphs from anim8or into Carrara will have to do those manually in C

Will start on a Marquee soon....

http://www.animanon.com/ROOM/GardenParty1.flv

Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 06, 2010, 03:11:06 am
Great stuff, everyone. :)

I like Arik's start, cooldude's nice render. (Although I would suggest adding some more lights and improving on the scene a bit)
Kreator's is awesome. :D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 06, 2010, 04:03:14 am
if you are talking about my scene, it was actually rendered in object mode, thats just the object, not even close to being finished.

Hopfully I well get the heart textured soon.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 06, 2010, 08:04:43 am
Quote from: hihosilver on September 06, 2010, 12:53:38 am
Good stuff guys!
Kreator I'd love to see your render but I can't see it on Animanon, it wont let guests see your image!
Emmm... yes, as it says, guests can't see images :)) , so you just have to login in . ( that simple )))

Nice stuff so far everybody ;)). Uuh, I couldn't participate on previous , so I do my best to join this one.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: kreator on September 06, 2010, 11:40:31 am
Sorry My mistake the blog uses the media gallery on animanon I`ll fix the guest gallery viewing ( Which I thought was fixed once before!)

Should be ok now.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 06, 2010, 03:13:27 pm
Quote from: cooldude234 on September 06, 2010, 04:03:14 am
if you are talking about my scene, it was actually rendered in object mode, thats just the object, not even close to being finished.

Hopfully I well get the heart textured soon.

Okay, thought it was finished, my bad. :P
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: hihosilver on September 06, 2010, 04:07:55 pm
No worries mate, the image look nice.  Good start!
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 06, 2010, 05:21:54 pm
does it have to be a movie?
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: hihosilver on September 06, 2010, 08:39:13 pm
Quote
Voted will be on the best still image.

Nope, movies/animations wont be judged in the final entries.  Kreator simply enjoys animation so he goes the extra mile to put his work in motion.  I would always encourage animation, but this competition will be based on images.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 07, 2010, 08:47:52 am
ok, thank you
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 07, 2010, 02:34:31 pm
Thanks for the good words. Everyone's goods are looking good ;)

Am personally hoping to do both a still and animated, as I want to focus on improving my animation abilities. My animation ideas won't require extreme extra time, so it may happen.

But, at minimum, I think I should have a good still render to work with. Again, I am sticking strictly with anim8or for the modeling and rendering, and use of GIMP for texture work.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 07, 2010, 03:02:34 pm
yay, gimp ;D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 07, 2010, 05:20:21 pm
Nooo Gimp....
I like fireworks sooooo much better, it so much better than photoshop too
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 07, 2010, 08:32:27 pm
PhotoShop rules all. Period.

Now... I'll get a render done for this challenge.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 09:33:17 am
What do you think about my test-render?
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/4053/challenge219062010test.png)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 08, 2010, 01:05:07 pm
Nice challenge idea and the first test renders here are nice.
Maximilianibus; its a good start, you could try to make your texture fit better (apply face to face or try a UV MAp) and perhaps subdivide one more time.
Her is what I have so far, I hope to have time to finish my scene this time...
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 03:37:18 pm
wow, thats awesome!
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 07:15:53 pm
redering....
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 08:01:14 pm
err, mine is finished, when should i upload?
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 08, 2010, 08:02:04 pm
Quote from: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 08:01:14 pm
err, mine is finished, when should i upload?

Anytime you want.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 08:20:37 pm
ok, ill upload
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Maximilianibus on September 08, 2010, 08:22:17 pm
its a bit dark, maybe ill change that.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img7/253/anim8orchallenge21.png)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 09, 2010, 12:56:03 am
How you say Maximilianibus, I think it is a little too dark.
Some progress for my dinner. Not a great dinner, my wife is certainly angry! >:(
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: lynn22 on September 09, 2010, 09:09:25 am
A very promising start Tof, keep going it will be a great image !

I'll try and get something ready by the deadline. Being a woman I owe it to myself to put "dinner on the table"  ;D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 10, 2010, 03:19:29 am
Dash it! My computer crashes during the render  :'(... I try again with a lower AA
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 11, 2010, 04:16:41 pm
More stuff, more, more!Come on people ;D Feww, my first entry ever! I just realized that I am horrible at modeling :P. Just didn't know from what to start! And it's even not a super complex model. From this moment I'll try to participate in every challenge that will come up, so this way I'll practice more ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 11, 2010, 04:27:43 pm
Nice entries already I see! I will be entering too. Not sure if I will have the tie to finish it but here is a start:
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: RudySchneider on September 11, 2010, 04:44:08 pm
Ahhh, it's a "The Amazing Kreskin" spoon party!
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 12, 2010, 12:36:19 am
Quote from: floyd86 on September 11, 2010, 04:27:43 pm
Nice entries already I see! I will be entering too. Not sure if I will have the tie to finish it but here is a start:


Well, you don't HAVE to have a tie, unless your dinner arrangements require it....
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: kreator on September 12, 2010, 02:00:52 am
food on the table here,

(animated version)
&hd=1
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: neirao on September 12, 2010, 08:56:42 am
Very cool table of food  :o

is render in carrara..you dont try render in Anim8or? :)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 12, 2010, 03:36:46 pm
Glad to see that more people join the game, I hope to see a lot of finished works (mainly mine, of course ;) )
I'm now done with my main render! It has taken 60 hours but I find it wonderfull how anim8or made the diffractions throw the glass!
Now going to accessory renders and post production (AO, DOF, trying to simulate the light rays on the table in the shadow of the glass and add the shadow of the fork that curiosly dont appears...)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: BMattster on September 12, 2010, 11:30:23 pm
First of all, I'd like to say "hi" ;D because I'm new to the anim8or forum.
Well, this is my entry for the "Diner is Served" challenge.  Hope you enjoy!

(I made everything in anim8or v.97d and used the ART ray tracer renderer.)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 13, 2010, 01:44:02 am
^Hey, that doesn't look too bad! :)
Nice work, you guys. :)

Uhm... I may or may not get to enter in this challenge.
I've been organizing a contest on a forum and it's taken up all my free time.. :(
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 13, 2010, 08:35:21 am
Nice Bmattster !!! You didn't use Attributes I think? The whole scene will look more realistic if you do that. And for liquid you can use cylinder and just edit some of its points ( if I am not wrong you used little spheres?) ;)

Come on 3Dgeek11, I want see your stuff here !!!  :D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 13, 2010, 05:46:32 pm
Here is my entry. I made the adds I wanted.
For the credits:
- Textures (wood and tiles) from lemog.fr (customized in Artweaver for my use)
- Beans: from "Colruyt" (low cost supermarket in Belgium)
- Modelling, texturing, an render in anim8or
- Accessory renders in anim8or (depht channel, light rays in the shadow of the glass, shadow of the fork, AO)
- post production: Artweaver (the most) and Gimp (DOF)
Good luck to everybody joining the challenge!
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: lynn22 on September 13, 2010, 06:28:39 pm
An amazing result, Tof !

Maximilianibus, have you tried yet to add some more light ? Your image would be much better if you put a little light between the table leg and the camera and would stop your table top from "floating" :)

BMattster, for your next project with glasses you might make the foot of the glass a little bigger, as it is now the glass will fall over at the slightest movement of the table ;)

I'm finished as well, so here it is
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on September 13, 2010, 06:35:56 pm
Wowa... Thats actually awesome lynn! dunno if you'd want to reveal it untill after the challenge but how did you manage the curtainy effect at the back?
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: lynn22 on September 13, 2010, 07:41:29 pm
Thank you 3D Joe and no problem, there's no private trick or mystery about the curtain.
Here you go :

In Top View, draw a curvy line with the smooth spline tool (boxed in yellow)
Make the curves irregular and in some places have them overlap the next curve to create an effect in light and shadow. Just look at any curtain in your house and you'll know what I mean.
Make sure that the size of the curves are in proportion with the rest of the scene, not too big and not too small.

In Front View, extrude the spline in the Y direction and texture and that's it.

In this picture most of the curtain effect is just light and shadow, nothing more.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Janro on September 13, 2010, 09:32:12 pm
Wow these are nice renders guys. I'm afraid I can't enter this one. Two separate projects caught my attention and I won't have time to compose a new image. Good luck with the challenge guys.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 14, 2010, 12:27:49 am
Wonderfull Lynn, but the dinner is not yet served, there is nothing to eat ont the table! (just joking ;) )
And thank you for the good comments, it was good to finish this one (I still have an unachieved pig in the throat, I'll try to finish it, ...one day).
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: lynn22 on September 14, 2010, 02:58:43 am
Thank you Tof, just sit back and relax and you will be served ;D

In fact, your comment gave me an idea to do an after-dinner view as well. Watch this space.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 14, 2010, 01:34:10 pm
The deadline is the 16-th. So that meens, that the last update can be uploaded before the end of the 15-th or even the 16-th ?  ???
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Arik_the_Red on September 15, 2010, 01:52:22 am
Well, I got a bad deal tying me up... and, sadly, I can't put the time to finish by the deadline... but, here, my "main course".... Nothing else is in a finished state, and I won't be in a position to finish due to real life tie-ups...

Sadly, I don't have a job that lets me sit all day playing with the PC... and family has been demanding time-wise this last week... and will continue to do so for the next few days..

So, all I can do is offer up:

SPORK - America's OTHER Pink Meat... (best eaten with a spork)

Can created and rendered in Anim8or... Label created in GIMP
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 15, 2010, 07:23:52 pm
Quote from: Gyperboloid on September 14, 2010, 01:34:10 pm
The deadline is the 16-th. So that meens, that the last update can be uploaded before the end of the 15-th or even the 16-th ?  ???
? ???
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 15, 2010, 08:01:55 pm
Don't know if I"ll finish it . Just rendering it. I'll put some tests, if it's not finished I will come up with the test render :P
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 16, 2010, 07:34:59 am
Quote from: Gyperboloid on September 15, 2010, 07:23:52 pm
Quote from: Gyperboloid on September 14, 2010, 01:34:10 pm
The deadline is the 16-th. So that meens, that the last update can be uploaded before the end of the 15-th or even the 16-th ?  ???
? ???

you can enter untill the voting starts...I will probably start the voting tonight or maybe tomorrow (busy ;))
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 16, 2010, 11:03:28 am
Rendering right now :-\
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 16, 2010, 11:40:47 am
Putting the last peices of it together (my freind thought my picture was really gross LOL then she got upset for me maker her see it LOL)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 16, 2010, 07:05:33 pm
Rendering... :-\
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 16, 2010, 07:18:22 pm
@Gyperboloid: Please make the final  render that sunset-y one! :P

I might throw something together, probably not...too busy.. :'(
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 16, 2010, 08:56:52 pm
Quote from: 3Dgeek11 on September 16, 2010, 07:18:22 pm
@Gyperboloid: Please make the final  render that sunset-y one! :P

I might throw something together, probably not...too busy.. :'(
But it's unfinished :P
Ok, here is already a deep night ( 4 a.m. :P ) and now I'll fall to sleep, but can't say  same about my computer :)) Still rendering. First time I will not switch it off for night :P I hope the voting wont start before I'll finish ( actually before my computer'll finish ;))
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 17, 2010, 01:23:29 am
Don't worry, I'll slap Floyd if he starts the voting before yours is done. ;)

I must say, for a still semi-beginner, those renders you showed above are impressive. :D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 17, 2010, 08:01:04 am
It seems someone is going to slap me :o!
If everyone is ok with it, I will start the voting tomorrow, so everyone will have 1 more day to finish there entry ;)

Here is my entry:
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 17, 2010, 08:23:14 am
Cool !!! Was it rendered with AO ? Time ? Very nce one !

And it's still rendering  :P The half done  :P Now I clearly understand what guys are talking about when they say: " I was rendering for 2 days !..."  :D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on September 17, 2010, 09:41:05 am
Awesome entries this time! I love the way everybody's using dramatic lighting and attributes, shame I couldn't enter :P
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 17, 2010, 09:45:31 am
Thanks gyperboloid! I rendered several passes: a normal one, an AO pass, depth and a alpha. Combined and some tweaks in photoshop.
The normal render toke about 3 hours and the AO 1 hour.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 17, 2010, 10:44:54 am
Quote from: floyd86 on September 17, 2010, 09:45:31 am
Thanks gyperboloid! I rendered several passes: a normal one, an AO pass, depth and a alpha. Combined and some tweaks in photoshop.
The normal render toke about 3 hours and the AO 1 hour.
??? Doesn't it take longer to render with AO than without it? ??? And what's the attribute for the glass, dielectric or transparent?

Come on cooldude234, bring the heart on the table ! :D
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Janro on September 17, 2010, 12:14:18 pm
Amazing renders guys.

@Gyperboloid: It is possible that the AO render was without the textures and lighting which would speed things up.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: cooldude234 on September 17, 2010, 03:03:24 pm
YAY one more day,
I accidentally fell asleep yesterday and was mad when I remembered this morning, YAY a relief
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 17, 2010, 09:22:06 pm
Finally  ;D :D ;D :D Task manager says : " Working time = 35 hours 30 minutes "  :o :P ;D Now I must send my computer to vacations :D I ( computer  ;D) was rendering two pics at the same time, just the lighting and the enviroment were different so I'll choose the "sunset-y" one as my entry, as 3Dgeek11 asked ;D although the other looks more realistic to me. Generally it is not as exactly as I imagined it in my mind, but for first time I think it's ok. Although some material settings came kinda strange ( my mistake ), espesially the spoon and the glass. I used transparent attribute for the glass instead the dielectric, because it's less " heavy " and for the spoon I forgot to increase the specular value. Comparing the glass with the jar ( which has the dielectric attribute ) you can see it. Nevermind, next time ;D. Every body congratulations
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 17, 2010, 10:59:41 pm
Either one's fine, Gyper. ;)

But I love the final result. :D
The first one does actually look more realistic, and maybe a bit better.

Good job!
And, Floyd: Great! I love it. :)

I promise I will enter the next challenge. ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 18, 2010, 07:21:17 am
Quote from: Gyperboloid on September 17, 2010, 10:44:54 am
??? Doesn't it take longer to render with AO than without it? ??? And what's the attribute for the glass, dielectric or transparent?

Like Janrp said: I rendered one pass (the normal pass) with the textures and shadows on and no AO. And a second pass with no textures and no shadows and only AO (below). The material for the glass is dielectric, with IOR at 1,33.

Here are the passes I used: a normal pass with textures and shadows, an AO pass, Depth pass for the DOF blur and an alpha pass for the background.
Title: Re: Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 18, 2010, 07:29:13 am
Voting started!
You can now vote on your favorite dinner render. You have two votes. Voting will last 3 days.
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: ENSONIQ5 on September 18, 2010, 08:31:40 am
This is definitely the most difficult contest to vote on so far, if I had five votes to cast they would be too few to honour the amazing standard of the submitted entries.  It's great to see different takes on the theme, and the level of detail, integrity of the modelling, and 'theatricality' is, in most cases, stunning.  Well done ladies and gentlemen, top quality stuff.
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 18, 2010, 03:08:58 pm
Yes, ENSONIQ, this is a hard one to vote for!

I voted, though. :)

May I ask, floyd, how you do these "passes" and put them together? What's the point and how do you do it?
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 18, 2010, 03:50:31 pm
Quote from: 3Dgeek11 on September 18, 2010, 03:08:58 pm
May I ask, floyd, how you do these "passes" and put them together? What's the point and how do you do it?

It's easy to make these passes. The normal one is just a normal render. The depth and alpha pass you choose to render along with your normal render: go render>render image and in the frame spec editor you can choose image, alpha channel or Image + alpha channel. Here you can also choose to render a Depth channel (normally I use a z near and far of 50-1000). The AO pass is a bit more complicated. I give al the objects in the scene the default gray material only with the specular value at 0. In scene mode you delete all the lights and at the AO attribute (object>attributes -->name: AmbientOccluder with int 1). Then go settings>lighting and set the global to 0 and the ambient to 3. Now render you scene at an AA value of at least 64 and you AO is done.

Now you will have 4 different images. I use photoshop to combine them. The AO for the soft shadows and contrast. The depth pass for the depth of field blur (all the white will be blurred and the black not). The alpha pass can be used to change the background of your image.
The separate passes will give you much more control and allows you to tweak the effect it has. It also lowers the render time since not everything has to be calculated the same time.
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 19, 2010, 05:20:20 am
Hmm... That all makes sense, I guess, but I already knew how to render depths and alphas, etc. ;)

I just don't get how you "combine" them... How is that possible..?

Thanks for the info! I might try that the next time I open Anim8or. (I know...I haven't opened it in a while, but I have been fiddling with Cre8or!)
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 19, 2010, 09:55:05 am
Quote from: 3Dgeek11 on September 19, 2010, 05:20:20 am
Hmm... That all makes sense, I guess, but I already knew how to render depths and alphas, etc. ;)

I just don't get how you "combine" them... How is that possible..?

You will need some basic knowledge of photoshop or other 2d painting software to understand. You can use the rendered images as layers on top of each other to compose your final image. Each of this layers you can adjust it's setting like blending mode, contrast, transperancy etc.
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 19, 2010, 03:13:31 pm
Quote from: floyd86 on September 19, 2010, 09:55:05 am
Quote from: 3Dgeek11 on September 19, 2010, 05:20:20 am
Hmm... That all makes sense, I guess, but I already knew how to render depths and alphas, etc. ;)

I just don't get how you "combine" them... How is that possible..?

You will need some basic knowledge of photoshop or other 2d painting software to understand. You can use the rendered images as layers on top of each other to compose your final image. Each of this layers you can adjust it's setting like blending mode, contrast, transperancy etc.

Oh, I have PhotoShop and am very good with it. Should have said that before. :P

Just layers, then..?
Hmm...
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Gyperboloid on September 21, 2010, 08:20:26 am
Bravo everyone! I hope more people will enter the next challenge. Go on... :)
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: $imon on September 21, 2010, 08:53:40 am
Congrats Floyd, and great job everyone!

Argh Im sorry I havent been around much, who knows I might have time for the next one.. I know I want to! haha

Anyway great challenge and very nice entries by everyone, deserved winner (looks like those spoons were having fun Floyd :P) and congrats to all!
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: Tof on September 21, 2010, 09:56:06 am
Seems like not a lot of people like beans :D
Congratulations to Floyd (and everybody else joining the challenge) and see you all at challenge...#25 or #26 (one more time: a lot of "real" work).
Title: Re: [ VOTING ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: floyd86 on September 21, 2010, 01:17:28 pm
Thanks all for voting and participating! Congrats to all and hope to see you back at the next challenge. ;)
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on September 21, 2010, 03:57:08 pm
Yep, I'll be sure to enter the next one.. :)

Congrats, floyd! :D
Gyperboloid, Tof, and lynn all had great entries, also. :)
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ]Challenge #21: Dinner is served
Post by: headwax on September 22, 2010, 04:31:41 am
Well done flloyd and everyone. Lots of sparjkle and very professional.