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Title: [ COMPLETE ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on February 27, 2010, 12:53:56 pm: Challenge #14: Sports equipment

(http://www.robbinssports.com/sporting-goods-store/images/PECART.jpg)

Another round is here after the very successful "Dragon" challenge and the goal is to create a model of any sports equipment.

It can be anything you want: a tennis rocket, a formula 1 car or a bobsleigh track... Just make sure you provide a nice still render before the deadline!

Deadline: March 14th

Remember the challenge rules (http://www.anim8or.com/smf/index.php?topic=2096.0) and post your progress, c&c, and/or final renders in this topic.

Good luck to everybody!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on February 27, 2010, 02:24:40 pm: Nice one! I'm sure a lot of people will give this a try, it can be as hard or easy as you want to make it..

I'm not sure what to do yet.. of course it is tempting to do something that featured in the winter olympics. We'll see.. Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Raxx on February 27, 2010, 02:29:36 pm: Yarr, time to model me some sports gear. Gotta keep it simple..gotta keep it simple...*sweat*
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Post by: rellik420 on February 27, 2010, 05:37:43 pm: this gave me a great idea for an animation. would it be cheating if i made an animation and showed a still from it?
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on February 27, 2010, 05:41:16 pm: Theres no cheating in doing more work than necessary! It just won't count towards the voting ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Indian8or on February 27, 2010, 11:46:17 pm: I think I will go for something like a "DIRT BIKE" if i decide to participate. ::)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: johnar on February 28, 2010, 03:16:30 am: The mind boggles.
possibilities unlimited.........i'm in. ;D
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 01, 2010, 08:27:52 pm: Could it be someone riding a skateboard? Just as long as there's sports equipment shown, right?

I'll start asap and see what comes out. :P
3DGeek
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 02, 2010, 11:43:01 am: Alright I'll kick it off here.. a start on the 'environment' around the sport equipment.. how appropriate.. a locker room!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on March 02, 2010, 02:20:22 pm: Wow... looking good already!! Wish I had chrome lockers at school! :P
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: davdud101 on March 03, 2010, 04:37:01 pm: I'm in! But hey $imon... is that a model or is it a photo?
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 07, 2010, 05:41:58 pm: Haha thanks guys :P

Here something a bit different.. I might combine them later on! We'll see...

Waiting to see what other people come up with, post your progress!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: davdud101 on March 08, 2010, 05:09:27 pm: Woah!!! ok, $imon. u win. jk, that looks real! the ball is just a little shiny, that's all.
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: johnar on March 08, 2010, 06:01:54 pm: Badminton
Progress so far
Got a bit to do yet. Will get the final in before the deadline. :)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on March 08, 2010, 11:24:46 pm: Nice models Johnar, the meshes look very clean! I'm really curious to see the rocket strings finished, are you going to model them or use a texture?

$imon, I don't know how you do it, but whatever you create looks awesome, even if it is just a simple test render... I hope to see more soon!

Here is the start of my entry, a 2-man bobsleigh. Still have a long way to go...
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 08, 2010, 11:50:04 pm: @$imon's basketball: I actually thought that was a real picture before I clicked on it and zoomed in. =] Good job. :)

I'm still thinking of what to do. (I've also been busy) But I'll try to get one in before the deadline. =]
3Dgeek
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 09, 2010, 03:42:09 am: Tnx guys.. I appreciate it.

Johnar; Great start on your badminton set.. I love that sport! You were probably already planning this, but you can easily add a transmap to the 'feathers' of the shuttle to make them more feathery!

Kubajzz.. great shape you have going on! Just a note; you might want to make a seam in the front part, the nose moves seperately from the back of the sleigh in a lot of occasions.
Bobsleighs are usually covered in a nice carpaint-like material.. check the new dotan8 for some tips ;) not that you need it.. just making advertisement here.

Good luck to you all! It's looking great
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: johnar on March 09, 2010, 07:25:00 am: Thanks Kubajzz.
I've modelled the strings. Wasn't till i'd finished that i thought about using a graph for a reference to keep them all even. duh.
I'll even them up soon.
The 3rd pic i added a logo to the strings, but not sure if i like that much.
We got snow in New Zealand, but don't see any bobsleighs around this neck of the woods.
Looks like yours would hoot along. :) Do they wax the bottom of those, like a surfboard?
Looks cool.

Hey there $imon.
Thats what i love about these things. Now i gotta find out about transparencey maps. ;). I'm not 100 percent sure on what is a transmap. Is that like, the alpha channel? I don't think i've ever used them!. In the past i've used environment maps, and fiddled with the transparecey, an use chromokeying in video editor, but can't honestly say that i've ever used a 'transparencey map.
Hav looked in the manual,but can't see an explanation there, (did i miss it?), and nothing in the search here for transmap. (except your post $imon. :) )
To tell you the truth, I'd love to know what a transparencey map is. :D lol. Honest. Any hints?
But apart from that, $imon, i was going to ask, do you use free uv mapper, by steve cox.? I gotta get my head around that. Making decent, well fitting UVs.
Its such an important thing for getting a really decent result.
(and lights too of course, shadows, reflection etc.).
Looks gr8 !!.

:)
.
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 09, 2010, 08:37:53 am: yea johnar a transmap is a different name for an alpha map.. transmap = transparency map, so it controls the transparency. In white areas of the map a surface is shown, in black areas of the map the object is transparent. Watch out though that this extra detail doesnt show up in shadows.. so you might want to add very soft shadows.
Also, you might want to turn off the specular in your material, since invisible parts will have a specular in some cases.
I hope that makes sense.

for UV mapping i use 3d studio max' built in uv mapper.. it is very easy to use and has a lot of features. the free Uv mapper should be sufficient to get a good uv map . Its always good to look into it!

The letter in the racket looks good, i would keep it!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on March 09, 2010, 12:18:21 pm: Good job Johnar! I agree with Simon, I think you should keep the letter.

Quote from: johnar
Do they wax the bottom of those, like a surfboard?

Haha, I believe they don't, there are steel blades at the bottom... But I'm not sure ::)

Quote from: $imon
Kubajzz.. great shape you have going on! Just a note; you might want to make a seam in the front part, the nose moves seperately from the back of the sleigh in a lot of occasions.
Bobsleighs are usually covered in a nice carpaint-like material.. check the new dotan8 for some tips ;) not that you need it.. just making advertisement here.

Oh, thanks! Honestly, I don't know anything about bobsleighs, I've only seen one standing in the middle of a shopping mall here in the city... Now you told me about the front and back being separated I googled some more information and it looks like I have some more work to do :)

As for the material, I was thinking about reflections like that... I really enjoyed your tutorial by the way ;)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Bobert on March 09, 2010, 10:32:14 pm: Everything is looking really great guys. $imon I couldn't help but wonder, was the raised bump appearance of the basketball a bump map or did you model it? It looks really good.
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 10, 2010, 03:31:54 am: Bobert; to model that would be too painstakingly... even for me!! So yes, it is a bumpmap.
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 10, 2010, 11:02:58 am: Alright I finished my entry.. Got a bit lazy and just added the basketball to the scene I already had. Some post-production for the colors in photoshop.

A grand total of 66 lights in this scene by the way.

edit: added some focal blur for better scaling
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on March 10, 2010, 11:17:53 am: $imon you beast! looks friggin professional even just in your background scene!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: hihosilver on March 10, 2010, 01:31:26 pm: Hot damn! 66 lights? Why would you do that to yourself? (and your computer!) Beautiful image of course. I'm a bit interested in why you used so many lights. Where you attempting GI?
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 10, 2010, 02:03:37 pm: 3D Joe; Thanks! Appreciate it a lot :)

Hiho; In the attached image you can see a setup of the render, the ceiling lights were fully emissive squares to reflect the lights, but to produce a shadow i had to make 8 lights with soft shadows on the complete surface to simulate a square lightsource. Do that times 6 for all the ceiling lights. Then I added the window planes and lights for that, and reflective lights off the walls from a 'sun' shining in the locker room. Add a few environmental lights to that and we get to 66 ;)

It wasnt too bad on me or the renderer, I copied quite a few lights in the source of the .an8 files so I didnt have to make them all myself. The render only took 7 hours so my computer is still alive haha
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: rellik420 on March 10, 2010, 02:14:20 pm: $imon you are the king of realism. great job.

and for johnar. i think you should model the top (frilly part) of the birdy ( or shuddle cock (depends on where your from)). then transmap the bulk of it. im not that good at texturing but i think that might b the best way to do it.

kuba, i dont think any of us really know what a bobsled is exactly sposed to look like so i think your safe if you miss some key points to it. "one for the money, two for the show, three to get ready, go go go" -cool runnings. (i think thats what they say)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 10, 2010, 05:45:52 pm: Three words: That is awesome.

Beautiful render, $imon! I'll definitely enter now, to try to beat you. =P J/k I couldn't beat that right now. But I will still try to enter. I'm still pondering what to model.. ::)
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: johnar on March 11, 2010, 05:11:11 pm: Heres mine. I modelled the frilly bits on the flying thingys. :)

I can't work out the transmaps from the manual. ???

But am quite glad i modelled them in the end.
This'll probly be my final. ;D
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: davdud101 on March 12, 2010, 05:05:45 pm: I might just drop out. I can't think of anything.
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on March 13, 2010, 01:53:55 pm: Good job guys! Here is my entry. This was originally supposed to be a test render, but I ran out of time...
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: RudySchneider on March 13, 2010, 03:08:10 pm: Marvelous texturing, Kubajzz! Looks authentic!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Mills on March 13, 2010, 05:37:10 pm: I agree, Kubajzz, that's a brilliantly striking image. Nice work!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 14, 2010, 11:17:48 am: Yea nice bob, kubajzz.. It's a shame you couldn't get a better render out, but it looks excellent anyway!
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 14, 2010, 07:30:14 pm: Nice render, Kubajzz. =] Even though it was a test render, it still looks nice. =]

Attached is my final render. It's a 1-day render. I just started it yesterday and am pleased with how it came out, in spite of the circumstances. ;)

I know I probably won't win, but here it is anyway! :) I hope to enter sooner next challenge and get a better entry. :P
3DGeek
Title: Re: Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on March 15, 2010, 02:13:21 am: The poll is up!

It's time to choose the winner of this round. Thank you all for the great entries!
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Mills on March 15, 2010, 03:22:05 am: Nice work everyone. Unfortunately my final render is *still* grinding away ... Congratualtions to those who finished in time!
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 15, 2010, 05:58:03 pm: Ah, that's a shame, Mills. Show it here, anyway! I'd like to see it.

I voted, by the way.

Also, why does my render look so weird compared to everyone else's? It seems to have like, 256 colors or something. It's not, but it looks that way. All of my renders usually look that way. Could it be that I didn't use ART? Does scanline do that to renders?

Anyway, good effort, everyone! I wish there were more submissions. This was a fun challenge. :)
3DGeek (That "ICY" on my render is my "logo")
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: hihosilver on March 16, 2010, 12:17:19 am: 3Dgeek, I think that would have to do with your lighting and materials. For materials, perhaps you want a bit more saturation? Make sure the diffuse is up to 1 if you want full color. Textures add to things a lot as well of course, but not only the diffuse textures. The specular highlight add to the contrast of the image as well as shadows. Of course, you can't forget lighting, as that's the key to making something look really good. And, to add to all of this you can always play with your image in an image editing program like photoshop or gimp!

Great entries by everyone by the way. Some good stuff goin on!
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 16, 2010, 03:24:29 am: I don't think you're talking about what I'm talking about. :P (But maybe you do, read on..)

Maybe it's my video card playing tricks on me and everyone else doesn't notice because their card isn't doing it. Because, all of my renders do this. But if I open it in Windows Picture Viewer it distorts the image and apparently 'patches' it up. So say I press print-screen while viewing it in WPV* and paste it in a program and save it as a new file, it looks perfect. So I present a screenshot of a comparison between 'render' and WPV-screenshot.
Sorry if this is a little off-topic. Perhaps someone could merge these last few posts into a new topic?

Click (http://mynetimages.com/b1d571e2c4.jpg) (Circled in blue is the "bad" render, and the other one is the "good" WPV one)

Attached is the better entry just to have it here. :)
3DGeek
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: johnar on March 16, 2010, 04:27:30 am: Wicked bobsleigh there Kubajzz. :)
Nice job everyone.
Cya next time. :) :)
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on March 19, 2010, 03:43:52 pm: Since no one seems to have done it already,

Congrats, Kubajzz! Your test render won!
Close second was $imon with his marvelous basketball. ;)
Johnar 3^rd.
Me 4^th. :P

I can't wait for the next challenge. Somebody start one!
3DGeek
Title: Re: [ POLL OPEN ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: rellik420 on March 19, 2010, 03:49:01 pm: i thought the voting was still going on. congrats all
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Kubajzz on March 19, 2010, 04:11:14 pm: Oh, I'm sorry for being a little late :)

Thanks to all and congratulations to those who finished this challenge!
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Mills on March 19, 2010, 05:56:41 pm: Likewise, didn't realise it was done. Well done Kubajzz, brilliant model! And of course a hearty well done to everyone who managed to get their image finished within the competition deadline.
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: Josmic8or on March 20, 2010, 10:24:17 am: Congrats 2 all!!!!
Title: Re: [ COMPLETE ] Challenge #14: Sports equipment
Post by: $imon on March 21, 2010, 01:08:31 pm: Yea congrats kubajzz! very nice bobsleigh..

Looking forward to the next challenge!