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Artwork => Finished Works and Works in Progress => Topic started by: Andy_Rch on November 22, 2009, 01:51:06 pm

Title: MP3-Bot
Post by: Andy_Rch on November 22, 2009, 01:51:06 pm
Long time ago, since I was posting in this forum. One year I think.
Now I was starting my anim8or program again and trying to model a tiny robot.

Here is a little sketch of the scene.
And the final render.

Maybe I will change something of the tiny robots pose.

Before I forget, all was done in anim8or (modeling and rendering).
I am still very impressed by this little program anim8or. ^^
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: RudySchneider on November 22, 2009, 03:16:41 pm
Very cool character and render, Andy_Rch!
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: $imon on November 22, 2009, 03:38:43 pm
Hey, great work there! Have you been doing 3d in other programs in the meanwhile? - I remember your faucet with waterdrops.

I think for this image, you might want to render an Ambient Occlusion pass, and combine it in photoshop.. this way you will create some shadows from example the headphones onto the head.

Great work though! Impressed by the likeableness (?) of the character!
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: 3D Joe Wiltshire on November 22, 2009, 05:16:48 pm
Nice! very sleek looking, I like the neon-ish colours you've used! reflections used very well!
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Jdez on November 23, 2009, 04:51:42 am
Love the little robot! and the mp3 has nice textures
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Andy_Rch on November 23, 2009, 01:20:52 pm
Thanks to all of you.

@ $imon
No, I donīt used any other programs in the meantime.
Some years ago I tried blender, but I donīt like the gui and the way you have to work with this program. I had the feeling that this program offers too much and I think I need years to handle all the stuff.
anim8or, on the other side, has only the thinks I really need, and so I have the feeling to be very quick in finishing my works.

But I still looking for an alternative program, which is as easy as anim8or, but has some more extras like fur, hair, KI and cloth. I also would pay up to 300€ - 400€ for such a program.

So, if anyone knows of such a program, please tell me. But I think I am not the only one who is looking for such a software ^^
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: $imon on November 23, 2009, 01:44:22 pm
i was merely asking if you used any other programs, since you havent seem to lost your touch after a year of not working with it ;)

I don't know of such a program, your best bet would really be blender.. however hard it is to use.
Maybe you can buy an older version of 3ds max or maya off of someone second-hand.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: ENSONIQ5 on November 23, 2009, 08:38:57 pm
Carrara would definitely suit you Andy-Rch, and older versions of it are available for free at animanon.com.  If you PM Kreator he will be able to tell you what's required to get it.  Aside from the items you mentioned, Carrara also has a physics engine, animateable materials, motion blur, lens effects, super-quick renderer, network rendering, etc.  It is relatively easy to learn, and its only real drawback is a clunky internal modelling engine and incomprehensible UV coordinate editor, but most Carrara users model in something else (like Anim8or) and import the models as .obj or whatever.

By the way, I love your image.  The character is excellent, the modelling is crisp and tidy, the scene composition tells the story nicely.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Indian8or on November 23, 2009, 11:46:23 pm
Nice render andy-rich.

My suggestion will be some older version of 3ds max.  You can get it second hand.

It is an incredible software and comes packaged with mental ray.

Most impressive thing about 3ds max is the availability of huge resources and toturials on the net.  The tutorials that come with the package or available on its official web site for free download are enough to learn the program fairly quickly.

I was stunned to see how quickly it rendered a sphere of fur.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Jdez on November 24, 2009, 04:02:25 am
Or you could use Anim8or for your modelling and do your extra's in blender since it does have physics and hair simulations available. Maybe you could try to see if blender has an import script for .an8 files.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: floyd86 on November 24, 2009, 10:40:44 am
Nice robot andy! Lovely character. As simon said: an ambient occlusion pass will make this even better. Maybe render it with an higher AA (I know longer rendering), it's looks a bit grainy.

A for other software: try cinema 4d. I belief the newest version (11.5) only costs about 400-500 euro. Cinema 4d is capable of doing almost the same things as 3d max and maya and it's very easy to use: Almost like an anim8or 2.0 ;)
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Andy_Rch on November 24, 2009, 12:09:44 pm
Thanks for all your nice critics.

And thanks for all the good suggestions which program could fit my desires.

Boy, this isnīt an easy decision. There are so many good ideas (modeling in anim8or and rendering in blender or carrara. Buying older versions of max3d or c4d). I think Iīll try out carrara first.
Yesterday I found a side where you can download a public beta of carrara 7 with licence-key. I havenīt try it out yet. And I donīt know if this link still works. But, if allowed, I could post the link here.
There is also a trial of Carrara 7. And, like you said, maybe kreator can tell me how to get an old version of carrara.

I hope carrara isnīt so difficult to learn.


And yes, I should try to render with a higher AA. This image was rendered with only 16.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: kreator on November 24, 2009, 06:26:13 pm
Carrara Pro 6 is available at animanon in the shop http://www.animanon.com/Forum3/index.php (http://www.animanon.com/Forum3/index.php)
 It has full licence key and can be registered with Daz.
our site shop is post based so the more posts you make the quicker you`ll get it!

Their (Dazs) hope, is that you will buy the content and perhaps upgrade to Pro 7 It will enable import of poser models  


With regards to buying secondhand software I`d draw everybodies attention to the following link regards Timothy Vernon From Seattle (US) and an On Going lawsuit with Autodesk regards his sales of software on Ebay.

http://tamebay.com/tag/timothy-verner
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Andy_Rch on November 26, 2009, 12:19:28 pm
Thanks for your reply kreator.

I will have a look at your forum ^^

What I do not really understand, how do the three programs poser, daz and carrara work together? Do I need these three programs to get all needed tools I want (like fur, hair, cloth,...)? Or can I do all these thinks with only carrara?
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: kreator on November 26, 2009, 02:16:54 pm
Most of what you require is already in Carrara there is no need for the others

Poser , Daz, and Hexagon are other tools that you can use with Carrara Ie: import Poser Figures, Daz is good for puppeteer , and hexagon is a stand alone modeller .

We mostly use anim8or for the modeller as it is easier than Carrara`s own native modeller , then import into carrara as either a 3ds or .obj file.

Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: rellik420 on November 28, 2009, 07:05:47 am
another program i remember trying was called gmax. its free but im not sure if it was finished or not. i think it had something to do with 3ds max but i was going to use it to animate with. i remember it was kind of like anim8or. but anyway its worth a try. only thing ull lose is a few hours at most.

great render
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: daniel99 on April 22, 2010, 09:55:53 pm
the bot looks kinda sad. Why? Doesn't he loke the music in there?
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Andy_Rch on April 28, 2010, 04:22:54 pm
Yes, he looks kinda sad. Thatīs because he canīt reach (donīt know the word) the plugin, because itīs too high.
I think you are the first one who noticed ^^
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: daniel99 on April 28, 2010, 04:26:18 pm
So, you now have to help him reach the plugin :) and he'll be happy again !
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: siragin on April 28, 2010, 07:20:31 pm
yea its called a head jack.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: Arik_the_Red on April 28, 2010, 11:58:48 pm
another program i remember trying was called gmax. its free but im not sure if it was finished or not. i think it had something to do with 3ds max but i was going to use it to animate with. i remember it was kind of like anim8or. but anyway its worth a try. only thing ull lose is a few hours at most.

great render

gmax is/was a 3D modelling program akin to 3ds, but lacking any animation abilities. I first got into 3D by being introduced to gmax for making mods for the game SimCity 4. I then discovered anim8or when I wanted to try something for animation, and not just still models. gmax is a very well-developed program for 3D modelling in any case.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: davdud101 on April 30, 2010, 02:46:16 pm
This is a really nice render... Awesome little character, perfect use of reflection and stuff.
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on April 30, 2010, 03:30:50 pm
I didn't have internet when this was posted. So I missed it.

Good job! I love the reflections, the little guy. It's all great.
Did you make up the character, or was it based on something?
Good job,
3DGeek
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: BOB_I_Ts on April 30, 2010, 07:36:19 pm
nice rebot i can imagine him in scenario with him being eves brother and eva leaves wally to babby sit whilst he sorts out earths mp3 librarys
Title: Re: MP3-Bot
Post by: 3Dgeek11 on May 01, 2010, 02:41:30 am
nice rebot i can imagine him in scenario with him being eves brother and eva leaves wally to babby sit whilst he sorts out earths mp3 librarys

lol that's funny. :P